Was able to make and finish this one because accidentally (but there are no accidents!) last week I had tried out this combination of ivory Delicas and transparent pale pink 8s in a Russian spiral so that was all done. The lacing was even the perfect length. All I had to do was put on a clasp. Thank goodness I still had two of these copper S-hooks. Again the bail was a joy and I was able to do it better than the white one I made for myself. Am thinking of redoing it. I would like to do more of these so I got out my catalog and started my order for May already.